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Group: DynoMotion Message: 5031 From: mattbsemail Date: 5/22/2012
Subject: How many Axis' will KFlop w/ Kanalog support?
I'm looking at running Kflop with Kanalog on my mill with a haas 4th axis. All the motors are 24VDC servo motors. I also wanted to have rigid tapping capabilities. What exactly does that require besides a spindle encoder? Will it be able to control my tool changer? The last question I can think of was... How difficult is the C programming stuff? My mill is a Kasuga with a bandit control and a quick draw tool changer.



Thank you for your time,

Matt
Group: DynoMotion Message: 5033 From: mattbsemail Date: 5/22/2012
Subject: Re: How many Axis' will KFlop w/ Kanalog support?
My fault I'm unsure of the 4th axis voltage but the other 3 are summit dana DC servo motors 90V 74A 1430RPM

--- In DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com, "mattbsemail" <mattbsemail@...> wrote:
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> I'm looking at running Kflop with Kanalog on my mill with a haas 4th axis. All the motors are 24VDC servo motors. I also wanted to have rigid tapping capabilities. What exactly does that require besides a spindle encoder? Will it be able to control my tool changer? The last question I can think of was... How difficult is the C programming stuff? My mill is a Kasuga with a bandit control and a quick draw tool changer.
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> Thank you for your time,
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> Matt
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Group: DynoMotion Message: 5038 From: Tom Kerekes Date: 5/23/2012
Subject: Re: How many Axis' will KFlop w/ Kanalog support?
Hi Matt,

You will need amplifiers that go between Kanalog and your Amplifiers.

To do Rigid Tapping you will need an encoder on the spindle so that the Z axis can track the spindle motion.  The Spindle Amplifier will also need to be controllable in a way that it can rotate at a reasonable tapping RPM for a specified number of rotations, then reverse for a specified number of rotations.  If your spindle is driven by a servo amplifier this is straightforward.  If it is a more basic VFD it can be more challenging.  User Bengt has been posting regarding this.

For a tool changer you will need to program the tool change sequence for your system.

If you have any understanding of writing programs the C programming should be straight forward, otherwise it will be difficult.

Regards
TK

Group: DynoMotion Message: 5042 From: mattbsemail Date: 5/23/2012
Subject: Re: How many Axis' will KFlop w/ Kanalog support?
Thanks for the reply Tom!

Yeah I was planning on running a encoder off the top of the tool changer drawbar deal for the my spindle. I don't have a VFD yet but I plan on getting one once I know what I need. Currently it has a 5Hp 3 phase 220V or something. I just don't understand the soft start and multiple start thing.

I'm the only person in the CNC department at my shop so writing programs is no big deal.

You said I need amplifiers. Which amplifiers and encoders do u recommend? I was reading on your site and I saw the axis page. It appears to be able to support 8 axis' and encoders? 0-7

I'll do some searching to read up more on the rigid tapping w/ VFD.

--- In DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com, Tom Kerekes <tk@...> wrote:
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> Hi Matt,
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> You will need amplifiers that go between Kanalog and your Amplifiers.
>
> To do Rigid Tapping you will need an encoder on the spindle so that the Z axis can track the spindle motion.  The Spindle Amplifier will also need to be controllable in a way that it can rotate at a reasonable tapping RPM for a specified number of rotations, then reverse for a specified number of rotations.  If your spindle is driven by a servo amplifier this is straightforward.  If it is a more basic VFD it can be more challenging.  User Bengt has been posting regarding this.
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> For a tool changer you will need to program the tool change sequence for your system.
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> If you have any understanding of writing programs the C programming should be straight forward, otherwise it will be difficult.
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> Regards
> TK
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> I'm looking at running Kflop with Kanalog on my mill with a haas 4th axis. All the motors are 24VDC servo motors. I also wanted to have rigid tapping capabilities. What exactly does that require besides a spindle encoder? Will it be able to control my tool changer? The last question I can think of was... How difficult is the C programming stuff? My mill is a Kasuga with a bandit control and a quick draw tool changer.
>
> Thank you for your time,
>
> Matt
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